All those authors there, most of whom of course I've never met. That's the poetry side, that's the prose side, that's the fishing and miscellaneous behind me. You get an affection for books that you've enjoyed.

And in a way, that's been a help to me, because I take great passions for a particular poet - sometimes it lasts for many years, sometimes only for a while. This happens to everybody.

And some poets are far better read off the page because they're very bad speakers. I'm thinking of one in particular whom I won't name, a good poet, and he reads in such a dry, boring way, your eyes start drooping.

However, I learned something. I thought that if the young person, the student, has poetry in him or her, to offer them help is like offering a propeller to a bird.

In fact a lot of them I think are absolute baloney. Those Charles Olsens and people like that. At first I was interested in seeing what they were up to, what they were doing, why they were doing it. They never moved me in the way that one is moved by true poetry.

It's like breathing in and out to me. It's like having a conversation with someone who isn't there. Because it has to be addressed to somebody - not a particular person, or very rarely.

There are some friends you don't meet for twenty years and when you meet them again it's as if no twenty years has happened - you're lucky when that happens. I feel the same about books.

When I was a teacher, teachers would come into my classroom and admire my desk on which lay nothing whatever, whereas theirs were heaped with papers and books.

Anybody who writes doesn't like to be misunderstood.

I'm very gregarious, but I love being in the hills on my own.

Well, I love fishing. I wouldn't kill a fly myself but I've no hesitation in killing a fish. A lot of men are like that. No bother. Out you come. Thump. And that's not the only reason.

A terrible thing about getting oldish is that your friends start dying, and in the last ten years I have lost seven or eight of my closest.

All I write about is what's happened to me and to people I know, and the better I know them, the more likely they are to be written about.

And if they haven't got poetry in them, there's nothing you can do that will produce it.

And it's impossible for me to read Henry James.

And the second question, can poetry be taught? I didn't think so.

But I hang on to books. I love them. I even think they're very nice decor in a room - far better than paintings... That's not quite true!

But you'd have a job to find many of my poems which would seem to be very influenced by a particular person.

I don't care whether a book is a first edition or not. I'm not a bibliophile in that word's natural sense.

I don't think of myself all the time.